Aug. 6, 2020

Pastor Dr. Michael Fisher on Exodus 3:4 – “God’s Response to Social Injustice”

Joining Mark today is his good friend, Pastor Dr. Michael Fisher, leader of the Greater Zion Church in Compton. He and Mark met in Jerusalem at one of the ‘Day for the Prayer for the Peace of Jerusalem’ events held by Eagles’ Wings, where, according to Mark, Michael delivered the greatest speech about Israel that anybody had ever heard. Michael runs the JT Foundation, a community development corporation, as well as an initiative which supports formerly incarcerated individuals acquire employment with local companies. Michael has chosen Exodus 3:4 to discuss with Mark today.

Michael begins by sharing the valuable advice which his father once gave him, the reasons why today’s passage is so meaningful to him, and his perspective on God’s response to social injustice. He then goes into detail about his powerful month long series about this passage and its relevance to recent events throughout the United States and the world, as well as the challenge he posed to his congregation. He and Mark also explore God’s call to see through a new, pure lens, His ability to change and grow, and the importance of titles. Michael concludes the conversation with the lessons he has learned about mankind and how they relate to today’s passage. As you listen to all that Michael has to teach us today in bringing the story of the burning bush to vivid life, you, too, will undoubtedly be touched by his passion, intelligence, and insight which so impressed and inspired Mark that fortuitous day in Jerusalem when these two first met.

Episode Highlights:

  • The profound advice Michael’s father gave him
  • Why this passage is meaningful to Michael
  • God’s response to social injustice
  • Michael’s month long series about this passage and the George Floyd protests
  • His challenge to his congregation
  • God’s call to leave ideologies and stereotypes behind and see through a new, pure lens
  • God’s ability to change and grow
  • The importance of titles
  • The lessons about mankind which Michael has learned


“God doesn’t need an advocate, He just needs a reporter.”

“It was God’s response to social injustice. It was His response to slavery.”

“It’s always reminded me that God actually cares…for me, that’s comforting to know.”

“This go around, it was like God was very strategic in drawing the common man and common woman’s attention to a situation that, otherwise, they would have overlooked.”

“God wants a partner.”

“God basically dismisses theology while encouraging action.”

“I will be what I will be.”

“If we could just kind of figure out how to get us back to…taking the sandals off, taking the shoes off, and just coming back and looking through the pure eyes that we’re all human…then I think that we’ll start seeing us moving to a path forward.”

Exodus 3:4 When the LORD saw that he had turned aside to look, God called to him out of the bush: “Moses! Moses!” He answered, “Here I am.”


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